The Slide Continues...
Bush's abysmal record of sliding down the polls is continuing and his recent decision to "commute" the sentence of "Scooter" Libby certainly has not helped matters. What I find most amusing is that Independents seem to be reacting more harshly towards this decision than even registered Democrats.
69% of voters disapprove of his decision to commute Libby's sentence with 76% of Democrats disapproving and a whopping 80% of Independents finding what Bush did to be simply beyond the pale.
On a complete pardon, which Bush has refused to rule out, only 9% of voters would approve of such a step with 84% of all voters firmly against such a step. 82% of Democrats feel this way against a whopping 97% of Independents.
A slight plurality of voters now favour the impeachment of Bush (46% for and 44% against) although more people appear to favour the impeachment of the worst man in the world, Dick Cheney, where - amongst all adults - 54% favour impeachment with 40% against such a move.
The figures are as nasty an indictment of Bush's failure in his job as one could hope to see. 67% of Americans disapprove of the way Bush is handling his role as President.
And what's astonishing about the figures is that there appears to be a split over whether or not the Iraq war can be one with Dems saying no and Repugs saying that victory is still possible.
I genuinely find it simply astonishing that there are still people out there who believe Iraq can be redeemed. That goes beyond optimism and puts one firmly in the camp of the delusional as far as I am concerned.85% of likely Democratic primary voters voting for Hillary Clinton, 71% of those voting for John Edwards, and 64% of those voting for Barack Obama say they do not believe the United States can win the war in Iraq.
86% of likely Republican primary voters voting for John McCain, 62% of those voting for Rudy Giuliani, and 68% of those voting for Mitt Romney say they believe the United States can win the war in Iraq.
Likewise Bush's ridiculous claim that the United States "are fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them here" appears to have been rejected by Democratic voters as the nonsense that it is, although Republicans appear to buy into this bullshit.
So it's an interesting poll, not only because it shows how Bush's recent decision to commute Libby's sentence has gone down like a cup of cold sick with the general public, but it also shows that Republicans in general believe things that are simply fantastical; that the war in Iraq can still be won and, if lost, that Iraqis are going to cross the Atlantic and wage war in the United States.67% of likely Democratic primary voters voting for Hillary Clinton, 84% of those voting for John Edwards, and 71% of those voting for Barack Obama say they do not believe that the terrorists fighting in Iraq would travel to the United States to fight if the US withdrew all troops from Iraq.
71% of likely Republican primary voters voting for John McCain, 45% of those voting for Rudy Giuliani, and 53% of those voting for Mitt Romney say they believe that the terrorists fighting in Iraq would travel to the United States to fight if the US withdrew all troops from Iraq.
The man who convinced them of this staggers on - with a mere 27% of the public approving the job that he is doing.
I don't expect to see a worst President in my lifetime.
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I genuinely find it simply astonishing that there are still people out there who believe Iraq can be redeemed. That goes beyond optimism and puts one firmly in the camp of the delusional as far as I am concerned.
As your sources of information are apparently chosen to go along with your preconceived notions, that you believe there is no reason for optimism isn't surprising. You might try branching out a bit and read something other than the Independent and Greenwald.
For a non-partisan, non-political account, you might try reading Michael Yon. His latest dispatch certainly seemed to indicate some reasons to be optimistic that the current surge is showing progress. But since he appears apolitical and doesn't support your preconceived notions, maybe you won't find him all that interesting.
The man who convinced them of this staggers on - with a mere 27% of the public approving the job that he is doing.
And yet the Democrat controlled legislature holds a much lower approval rating. Odd isn't it.
For a non-partisan, non-political account, you might try reading Michael Yon. His latest dispatch certainly seemed to indicate some reasons to be optimistic that the current surge is showing progress.
The post is actually about Bush's slide in the polls and the fact that the only people left supporting him are the diehards who feel that victory is still possible. This is no longer the opinion of the majority of Americans, with a mere 29% believing that the surge is working.
I don't know enough about Mr Yon to comment, but I am not surprised to find you amongst the diehards still believing in something that the vast majority of your country have lost faith in.
The man who convinced them of this staggers on - with a mere 27% of the public approving the job that he is doing.
And yet the Democrat controlled legislature holds a much lower approval rating. Odd isn't it.
I've commented on this before so find it strange that you bring it up again. There's nothing odd at all about the Democrats proving unpopular as they were elected to end this deeply unpopular war and have failed to do so.
The post is actually about Bush's slide in the polls and the fact that the only people left supporting him are the diehards who feel that victory is still possible.
Well, you are aware that the President is still incredibly popular amongst the military don't you? I suspect the same holds true for the civilian agencies actually engaged in the war. Are they diehards or just better educated on the subject?
I don't know enough about Mr Yon to comment
Probably the best battlefield reporter over there. An independent whose views aren't controlled by the agenda of a large news organization.
This is no longer the opinion of the majority of Americans, with a mere 29% believing that the surge is working.
And how many of those polled are able to offer educated opinions? How many of those polled are only able to make their opinion based on what they see on television? What a minority or majority believe does not necessarily equate to what is actually happening on the ground.
Near as I can tell from various sources (and I have given you one such source), there is much to be optimistic about concerning the surge, regardless of what opinion polls say. Suggesting that wars should be run by popularity and opinion poll is just ridiculous.
There's nothing odd at all about the Democrats proving unpopular as they were elected to end this deeply unpopular war and have failed to do so.
That their tremendous unpopularity (dwarfing Bush's unpopularity) only has to do with them not being able to end the war is mere conjecture on your part.
Jason, Even Lugar and Warner are jumping ship with rumours of even more to follow.
"In my judgment the current surge strategy is not effective," Mr Lugar told the Senate. "It relies on military power to achieve goals that it cannot achieve, and it lacks domestic support. The political fragmentation in Iraq, the growing stress on our military, and the constraints of our own domestic political process, are converging to make it impossible for the US to engineer a stable, multi-sectarian government in Iraq in a reasonable timeframe."
In this context, he added, "our security interests call for a downsizing and redeployment of US forces ... A course change should happen now, while there is still some possibility of constructing a sustainable bipartisan Iraq strategy."
Face it Jason, it's over. I can see you plan to go down with the ship. Good luck with that strategy.
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