The FOX News GOP Debate in 45 Seconds
Bill Maher sums up the Fox News GOP debate in 45 seconds....
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So you watched the debate then?
God, you do sometimes have a problem with basic reading skills Jason. I said Bill Maher sums up the debate in 45 seconds. I think the video is attempting to be humorous.
I saw that it was Bill Maher. I asked if you watched the debate.
Implying what? You know where I live, it wasn't broadcast here, nor have I been able to find the whole thing on the net. If you know where it is I would appreciate a link as I would love to watch it.
However, are you sure this wasn't another one of your attacks based on the fact that I am not an American, don't see all that is transmitted over there, and therefore - in your opinion - have no right to comment?
Fox is available on Satellite in the UK, have you considered getting it? I myself only watched a little bit of it. I may get more interested when the field whittles itself down a bit. To be honest, the pre-primary party debates don't do much for me. The presidential debates are more interesting.
Regarding your second paragraph, just out of curiousity, how do you think the average non-political American feels about non-Americans telling them how horrible their country is, telling them how they should be doing things, or otherwise offering unsolicited criticism?
I can't give you a definitive answer on that one, but I think an event that happened in September of last year serves as a good indication. Hugo Chavez went to the UN in New York and ranted on about Bush being the devil. The Bush hating Democrats in turn attacked Chavez. Venezuela had already been on a downward spiral since before then, but I remember after that some gas stations who were worried about public backlash posted signs on their pumps stating their gas did not come from Venezuela. The point being, criticism from ourselves is one thing, but in general we don't look too kindly on criticism from non-Americans who are trying to tell us how we should do things.
Ya see, it's one thing when you call your own sister names. But when the kid down the street does it, you beat his ass.
I am with Virgin and they are currently having a fight with Fox so I'm not even getting Sky News at the moment. And I'm not sure we do get Fox News over here, friends are with Sky and I've never come across it on any of their channels.
Regarding your second paragraph, just out of curiousity, how do you think the average non-political American feels about non-Americans telling them how horrible their country is, telling them how they should be doing things, or otherwise offering unsolicited criticism?
I would hope they find the perspective of someone from another country interesting. I certainly know that when any Americans come here they are always stunned that we see things so very differently than they have them reported at home, especially as we are allies. And it's not Americans that we criticise it's Republicans. Europe never had any problem with Clinton, indeed, we loved him.
And Americans who feel as you say have no need to ever visit here. If they don't like it there are other blogs that they can read. But I have had a lot of very nice compliments from Americans and something like 70% of the visitors to this site are American. So not every American shares your views.
And it's not Americans that we criticise it's Republicans.
You forget that accounts for 50% of the country roughly.
Can I say that I find you worrying about how Americans might react to anything negative written of foreign blogs to be quite odd, especially as right wing American blogs don't pull their punches when talking about Europeans.
I well remember a slew of right wing blogs talking about "cheese eating surrender monkeys" when France were threatening to veto the second resolution.
Why do you imagine Americans are so especially sensitive to criticism?
Sorry, that should read "written ON foreign blogs!"
I haven't come across any American right-wing blogs dedicated to Europeans or cheese-eating surrender monkeys. I've seem them mentioned, but not incessantly.
Why do you imagine Americans are so especially sensitive to criticism?
You may have picked up on the fact that Americans are generally fiercely independant. For example, we could never imagine subjugating ourselves to an entity like the EU. But I guess I'm getting off topic. Basically though, we don't like others trying to tell us what to do.
There is a sense of Euro-Superiority that many on that continent have. They feel it is their right and duty to tell people how things should be done whether or not they're asked. I lived there for over three years so I know this first hand. My girlfriend (a liberal by the way who didn't vote for Bush) goes for a vacation in Europe and has strangers asking her if she voted for Bush (considered a bit personal over here to ask who you voted for) and proceeding to tell her uninvited what they think of this country. She was getting pissed off about the whole thing.
Generally speaking, we don't particularly care what you people think about us and we're not particularly interested in your opinions of us, and quite honestly most of you don't seem to know what you're talking about regarding the US. I would never dream of telling British people who they should vote for to run their country, national policies the country should be undertaking, or anything like that. It would be rude and uninformed.
Now I've been speaking in generalizations and this is certainly the case for all Americans and all Europeans. I'm trying to capture the feel of how I view the man-on-the-street opinion.
I haven't come across any American right-wing blogs dedicated to Europeans or cheese-eating surrender monkeys. I've seem them mentioned, but not incessantly.
Why do you imagine Americans are so especially sensitive to criticism?
You may have picked up on the fact that Americans are generally fiercely independant. For example, we could never imagine subjugating ourselves to an entity like the EU. But I guess I'm getting off topic. Basically though, we don't like others trying to tell us what to do.
There is a sense of Euro-Superiority that many on that continent have. They feel it is their right and duty to tell people how things should be done whether or not they're asked. I lived there for over three years so I know this first hand. My girlfriend (a liberal by the way who didn't vote for Bush) goes for a vacation in Europe and has strangers asking her if she voted for Bush (considered a bit personal over here to ask who you voted for) and proceeding to tell her uninvited what they think of this country. She was getting pissed off about the whole thing.
Generally speaking, we don't particularly care what you people think about us and we're not particularly interested in your opinions of us, and quite honestly most of you don't seem to know what you're talking about regarding the US. I would never dream of telling British people who they should vote for to run their country, national policies the country should be undertaking, or anything like that. It would be rude and uninformed.
Now I've been speaking in generalizations and this is certainly the case for all Americans and all Europeans. I'm trying to capture the feel of how I view the man-on-the-street opinion.
Basically though, we don't like others trying to tell us what to do.
Though we have no problem telling the people of Nicaragua, El Salvador, and various other South American country's that they can't live as socialists even if that is the way they have decided to live their lives. Indeed, even if they democratically elect such a leader - like Allende in Chile - we reserve the right to instigate a CIA coup and install people like Pinochet... unless our hands are tied as they are at present in Iraq.. and then almost the whole of Latin America goes Socialist.
My girlfriend (a liberal by the way who didn't vote for Bush) goes for a vacation in Europe and has strangers asking her if she voted for Bush (considered a bit personal over here to ask who you voted for) and proceeding to tell her uninvited what they think of this country.
It also shows how much impact the President of the US has on every single person on this planet, which is why people like myself have strong opinions about him.
And it's the fact that Americans are at the top of the pile that means - as a race - they take very little interest in how the rest of the world works. I've been in the States and heard a barman be astonished when I told him the UK was an island. He had no idea.
I've always been under the impression that war is God's way of teaching Americans geography.
Generally speaking, we don't particularly care what you people think about us and we're not particularly interested in your opinions of us.
That's the same mindset that the British had when they were on the top of the pile. That'll all change soon enough when China and India replace the US at the top and the US slides into introspection.
I would never dream of telling British people who they should vote for to run their country, national policies the country should be undertaking, or anything like that.
Firstly, that's because the British Prime Minister has almost no power so it would be of very little interest to you either way I would imagine. In the same way as I rarely worry over who is going to be the next President of Indonesia.
And secondly, your government certainly took an interest when the people in the Palestinian Authority democratically elected Hamas. They immediately boycotted them for making the wrong democratic choice. Which was a simply bizarre thing to do at a time when Bush claims to be exporting democracy.
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