Friday, October 13, 2006

Olbermann Exclusive: Dissecting new Book: Tempting Faith



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4 comments:

AF said...

Finally good to see MSM exposing the shocking display of the 'Christian' right. Trading in their principles for power.


The faith-based initiative was a sham- and people like Pat Robertson are only ever interested in influence and power.

Thankfully people like Jim Wallis have been shouting about this for a long time.

Kel said...

Alex,

I'm more shocked at the way the Republicans use the Christian right for their own ends.

I'm interested, do you believe Bush is really a Christian? I seriously have my doubts, it's all too "in your face" for it to be actually true.

AF said...

Kel, I actually do- I'd like to explain my views of Bush's faith more but the short answer is: I believe Christians are as flawed as everyone else.

However, when I make a mistake, or lie, it only effects a few people- those around me mostly.

The thing is Christians- as you have witnessed, are far from perfect and can be idiots too. But we are also vulnerable to following false doctrine.

I believe GWBs faith is real, however he does not read his bible enough (or in the correct context), and certainly doesn't have much wise council if any.

Thats why I pointed out Jim Wallis-I believe this man has got it right with regards to faith and politics, he is arguing for an end to right vs left and a more open, positive and central approach. He is certainly against the deluded Christian right.

It's interesting - since you brought it up, I may devote a post to it on my blog.

Kel said...

Alex,

Thanks for that. I accept that I am far too cynical about Bush and his beliefs but that's because I see so little of any genuine Christian values in anything he says.

I found your point - and reading the writing of Jim Wallis - very interesting. I think the reason many on the left shirk away from "Christian values" is that they have come to mean - in the national dialogue - narrow minded republican/conservative values.

And to many of us they simply seem to be wanting to hold on to a 1950's view of the world that is totally unrealistic.

I'd love to read what you have to say on this if you do choose to blog about it.

I, as you know, am no longer religious although my family are. I have long thought the church, certainly here in Europe, lost it's way when it came to be associated with right wing values rather than with genuine concern for the poor.

It's strange that progressive parties - who are much more concerned with the social ills that Christ spoke of - are secular, whilst the party that cares mostly about the wealthy considers itself the most religious.

And they use religion to get the poor to vote for them!